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Old 07-30-2010, 12:02 PM   #301
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It's not something you need to argue. It's terminology. In most games, snares are effects that slows.


But yeah, level 5 Gate used to have a 30 second cooldown.

The old wildcard did 300 damage at level 5 and had a 1:1 AP ratio

The old pick a card did 250AoE damage at level 5 and stunned for 1.5seconds at all levels. It had a 3 second cooldown. Imagine how boned you were against someone who could always pick gold card perfectly.\

The old destiny was a 45% slow that lasted 8 seconds at level 3, and was global. It was just really dumb. (and it still revealed everyone on the map)
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:18 PM   #302
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It's not something you need to argue. It's terminology. In most games, snares are effects that slows.
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But yeah, level 5 Gate used to have a 30 second cooldown.
are you sure? I remember it having an high cooldown.

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The old wildcard did 300 damage at level 5 and had a +1 damage ratio
The old pick a card did 250AoE damage at level 5 and stunned for 1.5seconds at all levels. It had a 3 second cooldown. Imagine how boned you were against someone who could always pick gold card perfectly.
it wasn't really harder than it is now, but people still failed at TF mostly because they got cocky, yet yeah, in the hand of a competent player he was a natural born killer, I can't remember games where my meijai was lower than 20 at the end (even in lost games)

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He was funny to use
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:22 PM   #303
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It was something like 90 second cooldown at level 1, but each level reduced the cooldown by 15 seconds, so it was:

90-75-60-45-30

Really didn't change the fact that TF could go gank a different lane at like level 2 with pick a card and gate though. It was scary >.>
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:28 PM   #304
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It was something like 90 second cooldown at level 1, but each level reduced the cooldown by 15 seconds, so it was:

90-75-60-45-30

Really didn't change the fact that TF could go gank a different lane at like level 2 with pick a card and gate though. It was scary >.>
As soon as server go up I'll try play AP TF once again and see how it works. I never actually did after he got changed (nonetheless I stopped playing him when he used to be my main)

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Old 07-30-2010, 12:59 PM   #305
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btw gold card wasn't an AoE stun, it was a single target stun with AoE damage (same sprite that is now given to red card)
Also picking gold card was "harder" as it had different timing (truth is it was piece of cake at that time aswell).
Still I dun get why they changed him to shit. they could have just removed gate as 3rd spell or the slow on the ult idk. I miss him so much.
This AD TF is just no fun
It actually was an aoe stun, they just kept changing it until it is what is right now. It was trickier to get gold cards back then too.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:17 PM   #306
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It actually was an aoe stun, they just kept changing it until it is what is right now. It was trickier to get gold cards back then too.
I started when Poppy was the last released champ and it was already a single target stun with AoE damage (the AoE damage was not 100%) and well it wasn't really that hard to pick gold card, yeah it had a slower window, yet the rotation was the same and all you had to do was pressing W when red card was up

I'm hating this fucking server shutdown I'm decided to play AP TF and see if I can make it work somehow
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:20 PM   #307
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Who is up for a game when the server goes back up?
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:25 PM   #308
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I'll probably go on a marathon with this double IP thing, need to get all stocked up.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:03 PM   #309
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Went on my level 30 account after months and had my first game ever with Xin Zhao with 0 runes and 0 masteries, ended up with 15 kills 1 deaths and 16 assists.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:13 PM   #310
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AP TF result:
4 wins 1 loss
struggled a bit, hes underpowered as hell, yet you can farm meijai effectively with destiny and wild cards do a good damage early game.
1 game I was mid against krath, he was harrassing the living hell out of me, got to lvl 5, wild cards lvl 3
started spamming his ass with wild cards. at 1/5 HP per hit, 300 HP left on him gold card flash, stun, wild cards, he runs, wild card again at tower diving
run back not to die

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sadly we lost that game, krath never made a fail ult and ended up with 18 kills on my people, even tho most of the job was on their shaco
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So I've been playing with Yi for a while, but I'm looking for someone who's some what similar, but with more health. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:45 PM   #312
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So I've been playing with Yi for a while, but I'm looking for someone who's some what similar, but with more health. Any suggestions?
Tryndamere is the only char that is somewhat similar to Yi but has more HP, if not another instresting melee DPS carry is Olaf; his W skill gives you damage based on how much HP you have, so you have high HP yet you hit hard as soon as it is up. indeed he's the one to try.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:50 PM   #313
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Herp derp
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Aight, I'll try Olaf. Technoviking sounds fun.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:53 PM   #315
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I havent played Olaf yet. But I know Tryndamere is really fun to play. I used to main Yi when I first started, I bought Trynd, and havent played Yi since. I almost always go positive when I play Trynd, unless I have a shitty team.
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So are all Champions free to play on weekends?

I tried using Kennen because he was the one character I wanted to play the most. He looks legit (A NINJAR!) and I like his character design. I'm not good with him at all haha. Tips?
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So are all Champions free to play on weekends?

I tried using Kennen because he was the one character I wanted to play the most. He looks legit (A NINJAR!) and I like his character design. I'm not good with him at all haha. Tips?
Apply marks with Q W E and harass with W. Keep doing this until enemy is weak enough for you to ult and kill.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:31 PM   #318
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He's still a horrible hero though, doesn't add much to the table except for a stun sometimes.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:32 PM   #319
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But you gotta admit, Kennen is an annoying piece of shit.
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He is horrible at high elo in SR. He's pretty good in twisted treeline though with AD build. When you're below than 20 I don't think you should worry about champ tiers and what not, just try to enjoy and find where you'll fit.
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